Industry and Technology

The committee met to discuss the growing problem of financial fraud and scams affecting Canadians and how to better protect them. They heard from representatives of banks and telecommunications companies about the challenges and potential solutions. Anthony Ostler from the Canadian Bankers Association explained that fraud is increasing in Canada, unlike in Australia where it has decreased by 30% due to a strong government-led approach. He highlighted the Canadian Anti-Scam Coalition, which brings together different groups to educate people and prevent scams. He stressed the need for a national anti-fraud plan, better sharing of information between sectors, and the creation of a new Financial Crimes Agency. He also supported banning crypto ATMs, which are often used by criminals. Eric Smith from the Canadian Telecommunications Association and Carey Frey from Telus explained that while their networks are used by fraudsters, the scams often start on digital platforms. They described measures like blocking scam calls and verifying caller IDs, but noted that international calls are harder to control. Carey Frey shared a success story, "Project Lighthouse," where collaboration helped catch criminals using special devices to send fraudulent texts. Both emphasized the need for more coordination across industries and countries, and suggested laws to protect companies that block fraudulent activity in good faith. Committee members discussed the slow pace of catching and punishing fraudsters, and the particular vulnerability of seniors to large financial losses. Witnesses agreed that Canada is not fully ready for the advanced scams, especially those using artificial intelligence. They called for the federal government to take a leading role in coordinating efforts, reforming anti-money laundering rules, and improving how information about scams is shared. The committee will continue its study to develop recommendations to help safeguard Canadians.

This committee meeting focused on the opportunities, risks, and rules for artificial intelligence (AI) in important Canadian industries. The committee heard from two panels of experts who shared their views on how Canada should approach AI, especially concerning its impact on the economy, national security, and cultural sectors. The first panel included Barry Sookman, a technology lawyer, Ewan Reid, CEO of Mission Control Space Services, and Brian Gallant, CEO of Space Canada. Mr. Sookman argued that too much new regulation could slow down AI development in Canada and suggested that Canada should follow the lead of countries like the U.S. and U.K. by focusing on specific harms rather than broad laws. Mr. Reid, whose company uses AI in space, highlighted the need to protect Canadian data and intellectual property from foreign companies and suggested the government consider taking ownership stakes in companies it funds. Mr. Gallant emphasized that Canada needs to adopt innovative technologies like AI to improve its economy and standard of living, while also putting safeguards in place. The second panel featured Marie-Julie Desrochers from the Coalition for the Diversity of Cultural Expressions, Christian Laforce from Copibec, Samuel Buteau from ControlAI, and Sasha Luccioni from Sustainable AI Group. Ms. Desrochers and Mr. Laforce stressed the importance of protecting creators' rights in the age of generative AI, advocating for authorization, payment, and transparency when AI uses copyrighted works. Mr. Buteau warned about the national security risks of advanced AI, suggesting Canada should lead a global effort to prevent the development of "superintelligent AI." Ms. Luccioni highlighted the environmental impact of AI and called for transparency in energy and water use, advocating for smaller, more sustainable AI models and data centers. Key next steps identified include the upcoming release of Canada's national AI strategy, which many witnesses hope will address their concerns about innovation, intellectual property protection, national security, and environmental sustainability. There was a strong call for ongoing consultation with experts and industry to ensure the strategy is effective and adaptable to the fast-changing AI landscape. The committee also plans to continue its study, with a focus on specific recommendations for future AI laws and policies.

This committee meeting focused on the opportunities, risks, and rules needed for artificial intelligence (AI) in Canada, with experts discussing national independence, protecting artists, and using AI responsibly in government. Sean Mullin from the University of Toronto talked about "AI sovereignty," explaining that Canada needs to use AI benefits while protecting its data and economy. He warned that relying too much on foreign cloud services and computer chips makes Canada vulnerable and suggested building more Canadian data centres for sensitive information. Jennifer Brown from SOCAN, which represents music creators, highlighted that AI companies are using copyrighted music without permission or payment. She urged the government to prevent a proposed law change that would allow this and to make AI companies reveal what content they use for training and label AI-generated music. Michael Lee from UrbanLogiq, a Canadian company, spoke about how AI can improve government services. He explained that AI is already helping cities and provinces make better decisions in areas like land use and emergency response. Mr. Lee stressed that governments should focus on getting their data ready for AI, require clear records of how AI makes decisions, and plan for how AI will affect workers. He also warned against moving too slowly to adopt responsible AI. Committee members asked questions about how to restrict AI from copyrighted material, the impact of AI on jobs, and the environmental concerns of AI data centres. While no new proposed laws were decided, the committee is continuing its study. The Vice-Chair invited Ms. Brown to provide more information, and committee members noted that a new government AI plan is expected soon, which they will discuss in future meetings.

The committee meeting focused on Canada's economic strategy in response to global trade challenges, particularly US protectionism, and how to support key Canadian industries. Minister Mélanie Joly outlined the government's three-part plan to protect jobs, create future industries, and attract talent and investment, emphasizing actions taken against US tariffs on sectors like steel, aluminum, auto, and forestry. She highlighted new programs, including a $1 billion fund for economic resilience and a $500 million regional tariff response initiative. Committee members questioned the Minister extensively on the government's decision to allow the import of 49,000 Chinese electric vehicles (EVs). Concerns were raised regarding the impact on Canada's domestic auto manufacturing, potential forced labor in supply chains, and national security implications of EV software. The Minister defended the agreement as beneficial for Canadian agricultural exports and stated that security questions related to EV software were under the purview of other ministers. Discussions also covered the effectiveness of government support for small and medium-sized businesses affected by tariffs, with some members suggesting that loans were not sufficient and direct aid was needed. Other topics included the lack of a dedicated aerospace strategy, cuts to clean technology programs, and the government's efforts to attract foreign investment while protecting Canadian sovereignty. Department officials provided details on executive performance pay, the auto remissions framework, and progress toward universal broadband internet access. For next steps, the Minister committed to providing the committee with information on total investments in the battery sector by province and an overview of small and medium-sized businesses and jobs affected by the latest US tariffs. The committee also approved a budget for the extra meeting and passed various budget items related to several government agencies and departments, including the Department of Industry, with some items agreed to on division.

The Canadian parliamentary committee on Industry and Technology met to discuss Canada's approach to artificial intelligence (AI). Witnesses from Oracle, INQ Law, and the Centre for Designing Change shared their expertise. The committee explored topics like data sovereignty, AI safety, and how to help Canadian businesses adopt AI. They also discussed the potential impact of AI on jobs and the need for a clear strategy to ensure Canada remains competitive in the global AI race. Hamza Jahangir from Oracle emphasized the importance of trusted data, data sovereignty, and enabling AI adoption for small businesses. He suggested focusing on measurable security outcomes and enforceable standards for data protection. Carole Piovesan from INQ Law recommended modernizing Canada's privacy laws, building an AI assurance market with accredited auditors, and making AI safety a signature contribution for Canada. She stressed the need for independent verification to ensure AI systems meet regulations. Kulbir Colin Singh Dhillon from the Centre for Designing Change highlighted Canada's strength in AI research but noted a challenge in turning that research into real-world applications. He urged the committee to focus on enabling the responsible deployment of AI, especially in key sectors like manufacturing and mining. He also warned that Canada risks relying on foreign-controlled AI systems if it doesn't build its own capabilities. Committee members questioned the witnesses on topics such as the impact of AI on jobs, the role of government in supporting AI development, and the risks of falling behind in the global AI race. The committee members discussed how AI could be used to increase productivity and improve efficiencies, but also raised concerns about job displacement. They explored the need for regulations and policies to ensure AI is developed and used responsibly. The witnesses emphasized the importance of data sovereignty and the need for Canada to own and control its own data. The committee recognized the need for a coordinated strategy that aligns economic policy, industrial capability, and national security objectives around building and scaling Canadian AI companies. Ultimately, the committee did not make any specific decisions during the meeting. However, the discussion highlighted the need for a clear AI strategy, updated privacy laws, and a focus on supporting Canadian businesses in the AI sector. The committee members expressed a desire to ensure Canada remains a leader in AI research and development while also addressing the potential risks and challenges associated with this rapidly evolving technology.

The Industry and Technology Committee met to discuss the Canadian auto industry, focusing on challenges and opportunities related to tariffs, electric vehicle (EV) adoption, and competition from China. Minister of Industry Mélanie Joly highlighted the government's efforts to support Canadian auto workers and attract investment in EV production, including financial support for companies affected by tariffs and investments in EV charging infrastructure. She emphasized the importance of securing a good trade deal with the U.S. and holding companies accountable for their commitments to Canadian workers. Committee members questioned the effectiveness of loans versus tariff relief, the impact of tariffs on small and medium-sized enterprises, and the implications of allowing Chinese EVs into the Canadian market. Kathy Borrelli raised concerns about the impact of tariffs on businesses in Windsor—Tecumseh—Lakeshore, while Raquel Dancho questioned the decision to allow Chinese EVs into Canada, citing concerns about forced labor and data security. Michael Kovrig, founder of the Global Network for Strategic Effects, advised caution regarding Chinese EV imports, citing risks to Canadian industry and security. Brian Kingston, President of the Canadian Vehicle Manufacturers’ Association, emphasized the need to bolster demand for EVs, secure access to the U.S. market, and eliminate the Canada-China strategic partnership. Jeff Turner, Director of Mobility at Dunsky Energy and Climate Advisors, discussed the potential for EVs to benefit Canadians through fuel savings and emissions reductions. Cherith Sinasac, Director of Government Affairs at Electro-Federation Canada, advocated for a strong EV charging infrastructure strategy, including investments in public charging and charging for multi-unit residential buildings. The committee discussed the importance of balancing consumer choice with the need to protect Canadian jobs and industries.

The House of Commons Standing Committee on Industry and Technology met to discuss artificial intelligence (AI) in Canada. The committee heard from witnesses about the opportunities, risks, and regulations needed for AI in strategic industries. Discussions covered topics like data sovereignty, cybersecurity, and the impact of AI on Canadian workers and the economy. Roch Leblanc from the Canadian Telecommunications Workers Alliance (CTWA) emphasized the need to protect Canadian privacy and digital sovereignty, suggesting regulations to keep Canadians' personal information on Canadian soil. He also raised concerns about AI-based workplace surveillance and the use of AI to deceive customers. James Beer, CEO of Qu Data Centres Ltd., advocated for prioritizing domestic AI capacity and defining "sovereign AI" to ensure Canadian control over data centers and AI infrastructure. Barry Sanders, a professor specializing in quantum science and technology, discussed the relationship between AI and quantum technologies, highlighting the need for adaptive governance that can evolve with the technology. Witnesses like Jim Balsillie from the Centre for International Governance Innovation, expressed strong concerns about Canada's approach to AI, arguing that the country is falling behind due to outdated economic thinking and a lack of strategic action. He suggested that Canada needs fit-for-purpose privacy legislation, expertise in economic statecraft, and sovereign commercial alternatives to ensure AI benefits Canadians. Lisa Lambert, CEO of Quantum Industry Canada, emphasized the importance of cybersecurity and the need for Canada to strengthen its cryptographic foundations to protect against evolving threats. The committee explored the need for a balanced approach to AI regulation, considering both innovation and the protection of Canadian jobs and data. There was discussion about the importance of including diverse voices, such as unions and privacy experts, in the development of AI policy. The committee also touched on the potential for international collaboration and the need to learn from other countries' experiences with AI regulation. No specific decisions were made during the meeting, but the committee members indicated that the input from the witnesses would be used to inform their advice to the government on the future direction of AI policy in Canada. The committee also discussed the possibility of creating a special standing committee on AI, given its wide-ranging impact across various sectors.

The Industry and Technology Committee met to discuss the impact of changes to Section 232 tariffs on Canadian industries. Witnesses from various organizations, including the Excellence in Manufacturing Consortium (EMC), the Ontario Chamber of Commerce (OCC), and Preferred CNC Inc., shared their experiences and concerns. Jason Bates from EMC highlighted the struggles of Great Lakes Copper and Arctic Snowplows due to the tariffs, while Vincent Caron from the OCC emphasized the urgent need for practical measures to support Ontario businesses. Marc Lecours, President of Preferred CNC Inc., warned about the potentially crippling effects of the tariffs on the Windsor mould-making sector. Committee members questioned the witnesses about the specific challenges they face and potential solutions. Kathy Borrelli focused on the impact on Windsor businesses, while Peter Fragiskatos inquired about policy actions that could provide maximum impact. Gabriel Ste-Marie explored the possibility of U.S. trade partners pressuring their government, and Raquel Dancho emphasized the dire consequences of the tariff changes for Canadian jobs and economic activity. John-Paul Danko highlighted the impact on Hamilton, and Jason Groleau discussed the impact on Quebec businesses. Witnesses suggested measures such as emergency payments, tariff relief, enhanced tax credits, and government procurement preferences. There was a consensus that the tariffs are harming both Canadian and U.S. businesses and that a negotiated solution is urgently needed. A motion was introduced calling on the Prime Minister to secure an agreement with the United States to end the tariffs and protect Canadian jobs. The committee agreed to postpone debate on the motion until after hearing from additional witnesses.

The Industry and Technology Committee met to discuss the impact of U.S. tariffs on Canada's steel, manufacturing and mining sectors. Witnesses from various industry associations shared their concerns about the tariffs, especially the recent changes to Section 232, which they say unfairly tax Canadian manufacturing and create instability. They emphasized the deep integration of Canadian and U.S. supply chains and the potential for job losses if the tariffs continue. They also discussed the importance of domestic procurement policies and diversifying trade relationships. Eric Anderson from the Saskatchewan Industrial and Mining Suppliers Association (SIMSA) highlighted Saskatchewan's role in supplying critical minerals and the potential impact of tariffs on the mining sector. Keanin Loomis from the Canadian Institute of Steel Construction (CISC) recommended doubling the surtax on steel from non-FTA countries and applying "buy Canadian" policies to all taxpayer-funded projects. Ryan Donally from the Windsor Essex Chamber of Commerce stressed the immediate industrial capacity issues and the potential for production and jobs to move out of Canada. Michael Hicks from the Canadian Association of Moldmakers echoed these concerns, emphasizing the need for Prime Minister Carney to visit Windsor and see the impact firsthand. Alison Cretney from Energy Futures Lab spoke about the structural vulnerability that makes Canada susceptible to these tariffs and suggested building resilient domestic value chains for critical minerals and metals. Greg Moffatt from the Chemistry Industry Association of Canada discussed the essential role of chemistry in metallurgical processing and the risks posed by the tariffs. Committee members discussed potential solutions, including short-term cash-flow relief, reinstating a temporary remission framework, and negotiating a comprehensive trade deal with the U.S. They also explored ways to support diversification and strengthen domestic industries. The committee agreed that the situation is urgent and requires immediate action to protect Canadian jobs and industries. They emphasized the need for a long-term trade agreement with the U.S. and for policies that support domestic manufacturing and innovation. The committee will continue its study on Monday with another meeting to further explore these issues and potential solutions.

The Industry and Technology Committee met to discuss the economic impact of U.S. tariffs on Canada's manufacturing sector. Witnesses from mold-making and steel fabrication companies shared how the tariffs are hurting their businesses. They said the tariffs are making it harder to compete with U.S. companies and could lead to job losses and companies moving to the United States or Mexico. Isabelle Liard, President of Liard Industries, explained that a 25% tariff on exports to the U.S. is a major problem for her company. Jonathon Azzopardi, CEO of Laval Tool & Mould, said the tariffs are a long-term threat to Canada's manufacturing industry. Nicole Vlanich, Executive Director of the Canadian Association of Moldmakers, emphasized that the tariffs penalize Canadian labor and innovation. Witnesses asked the government to negotiate with the U.S. to remove the tariffs. They also asked for support programs to help them keep their workers and improve their productivity. Some suggested wage subsidies or access to loans. Many felt the uncertainty around the tariffs was as damaging as the tariffs themselves. Additional witnesses including Catherine Blanchet from PREXOR, Chris Vander Park and Diane Ricci Woodiwiss from Cavalier Tool, and Cyrus Jebely from Cap-Thin Molds, echoed the concerns about the tariffs' impact and the need for government action. They emphasized the importance of a long-term trade agreement with the U.S. and the need for stability and clarity in trade rules. Committee members discussed potential solutions and support measures. They recognized the urgency of the situation and the need to find ways to help Canadian manufacturers compete.

The Industry and Technology Committee met to discuss electric vehicles (EVs) and related issues. Witnesses from Electric Autonomy Canada, The Transition Accelerator, and the Global Intelligence Knowledge Network shared their expertise. The discussion covered topics like the adoption of EVs in Canada, the role of government in supporting EV infrastructure, and potential national security risks associated with Chinese-manufactured EVs. Ilana Weitzman from Electric Autonomy Canada emphasized the economic benefits of EVs, highlighting savings on fuel and maintenance. She suggested policies like clean fuel regulation credits and tax benefits for electric company cars. Moe Kabbara from The Transition Accelerator spoke about the global trend toward EVs and the opportunity for Canada to become a leader in the EV supply chain. He recommended investment tax credits for charging infrastructure and careful calibration of GHG standards. Neil Bisson, a retired intelligence officer, raised concerns about the national security risks of importing Chinese EVs. He argued that these vehicles could be used for espionage and data collection by the Chinese government. Committee members questioned the witnesses on these issues, exploring potential solutions and the role of government in mitigating risks. The committee agreed to prioritize a new study on tariffs impacting the Canadian mould-making industry, scheduling three meetings to examine the economic and supply chain effects and assess potential policy responses. The study will begin on April 20, superseding previously scheduled meetings.

The Industry and Technology Committee met to discuss artificial intelligence (AI) in Canada's strategic industries. The committee heard from representatives from the Vector Institute, Next Generation Manufacturing Canada (NGen), Bell Canada, Cohere, and TELUS. Speakers discussed Canada's strengths in AI research but noted that the country lags in AI adoption and deployment due to trust issues and slow infrastructure development. They emphasized the importance of data sovereignty, operational control over AI infrastructure, and clear regulations to foster trust and innovation. They also discussed the need for a national AI strategy, government leadership in AI adoption, and support for Canadian AI companies.

The Industry and Technology Committee met to discuss electric vehicles (EVs) and related trade. The committee heard from witnesses about the opportunities and risks associated with importing Chinese EVs into Canada. Concerns were raised about forced labor in Chinese supply chains, data security risks with Chinese software in EVs, and the potential impact on the Canadian auto industry. Margaret McCuaig-Johnston, a senior fellow from the University of Ottawa, expressed concerns about forced labor in the production of Chinese EVs and the potential for data collection through Chinese software. She suggested guardrails, like stripping out Chinese software and ensuring supply chain transparency. Julian Karaguesian, a visiting lecturer from McGill University, argued that importing Chinese EVs is a step towards diversifying trade and that Canada should not fear competition from China. He emphasized the importance of global trade for Canada's long-term prosperity. Later, Benjamin Taylor, CEO of Beachman Motor Company Ltd, discussed his experience as a Canadian EV manufacturer, highlighting the challenges of competing with lower-cost production in China. Nicole Vlanich, executive director of the Canadian Association of Moldmakers, emphasized the importance of domestic production for the mold-making industry and raised concerns about the end-of-life management of imported EVs. A motion was introduced to condemn forced labor practices in China, which received unanimous support after some debate. An amendment to condemn a specific committee member's comments was defeated. The meeting ended with unresolved discussions and a commitment to continue the study, though the second panel of witnesses were not asked any questions.

The Canadian parliamentary committee on Industry and Technology met to discuss the federal government's policies related to artificial intelligence (AI). The committee heard from several experts in the field, including professors Michael Geist, Colin Bennett, and Yoshua Bengio, who shared their insights and recommendations. The discussion covered a range of topics, including the need for updated privacy laws, AI transparency, and the potential risks and benefits of AI development. Michael Geist emphasized the importance of balancing innovation with safeguards against potential risks, suggesting that current proposals risk doing more harm than good. He recommended prioritizing modernized privacy laws and an AI transparency act. Colin Bennett echoed Geist's concerns about data sovereignty and the need for an overarching statutory framework for AI. He also highlighted the importance of privacy protection policies and the need for effective redress mechanisms for individuals affected by automated decisions. Yoshua Bengio warned about the potential risks of unsafe AI development, including the displacement of jobs and the use of AI for malicious purposes. He stressed the need for international cooperation and the development of safe and trustworthy AI. Committee members raised questions about the potential impact of AI on employment, national security, and the digital divide. The witnesses provided recommendations on how the government can better prepare for the challenges and opportunities presented by AI. Later in the meeting, the committee heard from Carys Craig, Wendy Cukier, and Ali Dehghantanha. Craig spoke about copyright law and AI, cautioning against expanding copyright protections as part of an AI regulatory package. Cukier discussed the importance of AI adoption by small and medium-sized enterprises (SMEs) and the need to address bias in AI systems. Dehghantanha focused on the need for continuous AI risk monitoring and post-deployment assurance. The committee members discussed the need for a balanced approach to AI regulation that promotes innovation while mitigating risks. They also explored ways to support SMEs in adopting AI and to ensure that AI systems are developed and used responsibly and ethically. The committee agreed to continue its study of AI policies and to consider the recommendations provided by the witnesses.

The Industry and Technology Committee met to discuss policies related to electric vehicles (EVs) in Canada. Witnesses from the Canadian Automobile Dealers Association (CADA), Clean Energy Canada, and Electric Mobility Canada shared their perspectives. CADA expressed support for the government's new auto strategy but urged for the immediate removal of the EVAS regulation and provincial EV mandates, arguing they create uncertainty and trade barriers. Clean Energy Canada highlighted the global shift towards EVs and emphasized the need for strong tailpipe standards and investments in charging infrastructure to boost the domestic EV market. Electric Mobility Canada supported the auto strategy, emphasizing the importance of market predictability and collaboration with other countries to develop the EV industry.